Friday 27 May 2016

Triton Delay

Here is a layout for Culturejam's Triton Delay.
You can find his Build Guide here (Log In needed) and extra info on Madbean's website.

 Here is part of its description:
"The Triton Delay is yet another PT2399-­‐‑based delay circuit that, at its tonal and topological core, is substantially similar to the Rebote 2.5 by Tonepad. TheTriton, however, diverges from the base concept by adding a second Delay Time potentiometer and a unique (in the DIY world) modulation effect. The Delay pots are selectable via footswitch (latching), and when switching from one time setting to the other, the delay time change happens slowly, just as if you were manually turning the delay time pot on a standard delay pedal. This causes a gradual pitchbend that slowly resolves to unison if a note or chord is struck and held when toggling between Delay pots. To control the speed of the pitch bend/resolve, there is a pot labelled “Slow”. Making the transition speed slower also makes overall delay time longer. It’s a very interactive system."



34 comments:

  1. Nice sounds! Cheers Alex. The link to the build guide doesn't seem to be working for me.

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  2. It's a PDF file.
    It should ask you to Open or Save.

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    1. Nope. You'll need to be logged in to Madbean forum for the link to work - so it doesn't work for most.
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    2. Hmm. The link is still unavaible for 99.9%. I think it should be mentioned that one needs to log in to madbean forums to see it. Or remove the link completely. Otherwise it's just a dead link.

      I for one would be interested to see a short description what the second footswitch does and what are the changes compared to all the other PT2399 delays out there. But i'm not going to create user account to Brian's forum, as i'm already active on way too many sites.
      +m

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  3. Culturejam's stuff is always great. The slow switch and tone trimmer make this a standout pt2399 build

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  4. This is... really nice. Thank-you for another great layout.

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  5. Thank you for a great layout once again. I will built it but I have 2 question on the led. If i understood correctly 1 Led is for bypass and the 2 other are for time 1 and time 2. I don't understand who is who in Led 1, 2 and 3. On the board it's the positive side of the Led, the negative side is on the ground we want and not on the footswitch as usual for time 1 and 2 Leds?
    Thanks for the answer

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  6. LED3 is the bypass LED.
    LEDs 1 & 2 cathodes (negative sides) are directly connected to ground. No switch involved.

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    1. You could connect the cathode on LEDs 1&2 to the ground on switch so they turn off in bypass right?

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    2. Wait, I see that they are not rate LEDs, nvm.

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  7. Thank you. Now I know where I am.

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  8. You can tag it as verified. It works very well and the tone pot (not only) is very nice.

    Here is some pics of my build, I put the tone pot outside and add the multiplex daughter board.

    http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9520625/20160608_123854.jpg

    http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9520625/20160608_123914.jpg

    Thanks again for the layout

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    1. Cool!
      Thanks Thomas!
      Very nice build too!

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    2. this looks awesome. what size enclosure is this?
      to add the mod, I assume you used the "switchable boost" set up on the offboard wiring page but added the mod after the main effect. what's the advantage of doing that over the "dual effect example"?

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    3. Thomas, the pictures of your build are no longer online, but if I remember correctly, you've added a "Speed" pot, which I guess sets the speed of the transition between Time 1 and Time 2. Could you tell me what you did on the circuit board in order to do that ? I would like the transition on my build to be slower, if possible, so I'm really interested in your mod.

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  9. Hi

    I've just finished this and I love it! It's a great sounding delay and I also brought the tone pot outside and I like being able to tweak it.

    In the original build document they recommend a 100u capacitor in parallel on a switch which I've added and it makes the transition longer. This is useful when there isn't a huge difference in the two delay times (ie going from that piled on ring-modish sound to a slapback) to create a long enough transition and for flipping backwards and forwards during a longer time-difference transition.

    A couple of questions if that's OK.

    The difference in the mix seems fairly slight. At full left there is no mix, just dry signal and there is a difference by the time you get to full right but it's subtle, Should the mix work like this?

    Secondly. My Time 1 and 2 pots are wired backwards. I'm more than willing to accept responsibility for this but I've checked it over with the layout and it seems wired correctly but there is still a high liklihood that it's my error.

    Thanks again for another great layout!

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  10. This is nice. The repeats get quite dark. My only gripe is that the mix doesn't get too wet. Still excellent stuff. I just bought a rainbow machine too (first pedal I've bought for about 5 years) and I'm now in the weirdest realms of space and time. Far out man

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  11. I just finished my Triton. I've been on a Futurama thing lately, this one's a bit of a mash up.
    https://i.reddituploads.com/3870d91c29554e27bdc81d2363c94fbb?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=8f78581ecc84e53cd308e3e6ff16c2a0

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  12. Hey, question-time again! :)
    I build this vero several times now (at first for myself, gave it away, again for myself.. and gave it away...) So I know its verified and working. But I'm building another one (for myself :) and this time I doesn't work as supposed too, but I can not find the fault. The 'Normal' sound is quite loud in the Mix. Actually quite distorted. The delay very low. Even when the Mix is turned fully clockwise, the original signal stays there. While that should not be the case; Only the delayed sound should be there.

    The tone knob doesnt too much in this build as well. But maybe that has to do something with the previous problem.
    Any ideas?

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  13. Does anyone gets infinite repeats??

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    1. The Regen and Tone pots are interactive. When Both fully turned up you get infinite repeats/feedback. When you turn the Tone down it will go away

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  14. Hey, my clean signal is distorted too much. Any ideas how to fix that? (See also previous post) Hope someone can help me out!

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    1. To describe it better. The 'ON' signal is way louder than the bypassed signal. Causing distortion.

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    2. Hey I am having the same problem. Did you ever figure it out?

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    3. I once had a bad 100n cap from pin 7 to ground, this caused distortion at the output (pin 14) of the PT2399.

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  15. is this truly verified? anyone got a demo video? seems like everyone is posting problems and noone really has said i've built this and it works. I may look into the dry path problems tonight

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  16. Hi! correct me if i'm wrong but pot "slow" must be really useless in that pedal 'cuz it changing length of both delays equally. So it is not necessary at all to add that pot.

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  17. I am getting very quiet repeats. Does anyone else have this problem?

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  18. Hi

    I'm loving this build, it has some fantastic sounds and love that
    its like having 2 delay pedals in the 1 unit with 2 time presets
    (if you wanted to use it that way)

    I was wondering is there anyway to increase the tone to make it brighter so its more transparent when engaging a distortion. the tone of the guitar goes quite dark

    any thoughts?

    Cheers

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    1. First, try adjusting the low pass filter at pin 13 (C14). Try reducing the 56n to 15n.

      You can then also try reducing caps between pins 9-10 & 11-12 from 100nf to 82nf. And then the caps between pins 13-154 & 15-16 to 1nf.

      Some, if not all of these changes will also increase the amount of hiss at longer delay times.

      Electrosmash has some good info on the PT2399, although I had to read through it a half a dozen times
      https://www.electrosmash.com/pt2399-analysis

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  21. Hey can anyone help a guy out? I'm having the same problem as okwilliam. My clean signal is distorted and tone pot does not do much at all. Does anyone have any ideas what the problem could be?

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