Friday, 5 February 2016

Madbean Leviathan (Wampler Faux Analog Echo Delay)

Madbean's great new project based on Wampler Faux Analog Echo Delay.
Original infos available here.

This video is for reference only:




50 comments:

  1. that's a great layout Alex! and a really nice delay.
    in the vid the repeats control does not oscillate. am i right?
    that's the first time i'm seeing that with a pt chip. do you think that leviathan works that way too???

    mmm... i think i'm gonna give it a try anyway...i said no more delays but...!!!

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    1. Hi Savvas!
      From what I can see Brian's schematic is identical to the original except a few components values.
      I suppose it should sound the same.

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  2. External mod board? Please explain

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  3. If you want to add an extra modulation circuit of your choice.

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    1. Hi Alex, if i were to add extra mod circuit, delay 2-3 goes to the IN of the mod board, and where does the OUT from the mod circuit connect to? thanks!

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    2. There is no input in the extra Modulation board.
      Just one output that goes to Delay 2&3.
      This is an example:
      http://www.sabrotone.com/?attachment_id=702
      Also, this Mod Daughterboard from Mark might work:
      http://tagboardeffects.blogspot.fr/2014/04/grind-customs-fx-deprofundis-delay.html

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    3. Thank you very much Alex... learned a lot from you guys. Will start to build this by the weekend.

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  4. Nice! ;) What modulation works better? (Without Vactrol)

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    1. Try using the modulation circuit from Madbean's Dirtbaby & ZeroPoint Mini, it works for me and I have the option of switching from short chorus like and a wider modulation.

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  5. Verified! Nice delay. Really like the repeats on this.

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    1. Great! Cheers Gavin. I'll tag it.
      +m

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    2. yeap....i've build that one too.
      the tone pot does almost nothing to my ears..maybe it's my guitar, or amp. i don't know. also level acts more like a mix control as i expected.

      i'm working on this for the last week.i drew and build an other perf bord layout just for fun cause i'm accidentally stack with 5 big boards and wanted to use them. it came out relly small(12x24), but too noise, so i've rebuilded it on vero.

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    3. To comment on that tone pot. My tone control on the deprofundis built also did (almost) nothing to my ears.

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    4. yeah...i'm sad about that...i really wanted to box this...but as i see it, my deep blue delay is much better at this point.. i'll keep the board in case we fix the problem though..

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    5. You could try upping the 68n on Tone 1 to 100n or more....OR increase the Tone pot to 20K plus. Both changes "should" dramatically alter the corner frequency of the LPF.

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    6. 20k pot + 150nf...still nothing on the tone response... maybe (not sure)that mods changed the frequence that the pot "should operate" , but i can't hear any response from the pot

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    7. Hi, did you solve the problem with the tone? I found there's one cap missing in this version compared with the Madbean version, could that be the problem?

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    8. Which version? The layout? I'm quite sure it matches Madbean's schematic. 29 caps. Which cap would be missing?

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    9. I'm sorry! I was missing the 1n one from the sixth pin of the tl072, my mistake.

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  7. How to make it sound brighter?

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  8. Where do I solder LED -? I don't see any LEDs in Madbean's schematic..

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    1. That's for you bypass LED indicator. Wire it to your stomp switch like you would on any other build. The 4K7 to the left of LED+ is its current limiting resistor. Adjust this value for your preferred brightness.

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  9. I'm still a noob with building pedals, so please excuse the question, but has anyone put this into an enclosure yet? I see Madbean is calling for a 1590BB, but it looks like it **might** fit in a 125B. Any thoughts? Thank you for any assistance offered.

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    1. In theory the vero could fit in a 1590B enclosure.
      Should have no problems with a 125B.

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  10. I finished this delay and added the modulation daughterboard from the Deprofundis post, it works fine, except the switch gives modulation only/delay only/delay only, I tried swaping time 1 with time 2,3 but then I obtained modulation only/delay only/modulation only. What would be the problem?

    PS1. I postred this issue there but have no answer yet.
    PS2. Thanks for this blog and sharing so much info!

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    1. Maybe it's not exactly what you were asking, but this helped me add the modulationon board you mentioned on a DBD and have modulated repeats.
      http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=106658.msg965950#msg965950
      Look for the answer by slacker about the rebote, towards the end of the page.

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    2. Thank you! I did what slacker says there and I finally obteined modulated delays, but unfurtunately the other positions of the switch did no effect at all. I tried several ways of wiring the switch and I couldn't get the three options. I think I will try with a 6 pin switch on/off/on. Thank you again!

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    3. Yes, unfortunately it doesn't solve the switch problem, it just gives you modulation on the repeats. But it can work with a different switch as you said. Glad it helped!

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  11. Has anyone tried this with the taptation ICs for tap tempo? I just tried, but didn't get any delay signal, just dry...

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    1. Got the tap tempo to work.

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    2. How did youvget it to work with taptation?

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  12. I'm counting 36 cuts, is that right?

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  13. Sounds great! Could this be modded to keep delay trails in bypass?

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  14. today i was clearing my unboxed boards, and troubleshoot this one.forget what i said 9 months ago. it was my mistake. missoldered the tone wire...now it works great, and it's gonna have a new aluminium home!!!cheers

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    1. I'm in the same boat - tone control does nothing that I can discern. I've triple-checked things and they look right. What error did you find? Thanks. Regards, Michael

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  15. has anyone added a mod board to this?

    i've built two different mod boards that are certainly making a modulated sound but seem to drastically affect the delay time, making it really short. any ideas?

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  17. for the B25K Potmeter can I use a B20K instead? pretty hard to get my hands on a B25K :(

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  18. Built this on a whim last night. Buddy bought a real one said its fantastic, IT is Fantastic , It sounds exactlt like an analog delay just killer. Thanks Alex and Madbean and Mr Wampler .

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  19. Excellent delay! Just finished, and have another one on the way

    You can see it here:
    https://www.facebook.com/hgecontraptions/photos/pcb.862223993920418/862223883920429/?type=3&theater

    https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16473612_862223973920420_3444120431212653276_n.jpg?oh=651169fa88b233aa9c29f6bcd5050add&oe=594BFAC2

    And hear it here:

    https://www.facebook.com/hgecontraptions/videos/862224243920393/

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  20. Here is the second one!

    http://hgecontraptions.blogspot.com/2017/02/another-wampler-faux-analog-echo-delay.html

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  21. thank Alex great layout

    https://youtu.be/tL_jnRxQSIw

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  23. I have just finished this one complete with the modulation daughterboard from the Deprofundis build.

    I scrapped the three stage switch and opted for delay/delay+mod as I also couldn't get it working as described, I also noted that when modulation is enabled the delay is increase significantly... Can get some really nice noises from it though!

    Just to clarify, is this correct?

    Delay 2,3 > Daughterboard (mod switch 1)
    Delay 1 > Daughterboard [Time 1]

    I've connected them from the daughterboard to the Delay pot lugs (which goes directly to the circuit, this shouldn't be a problem, should it?

    Like this in fact: http://imgur.com/RWdfGXz

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  24. Has anybody tried this with thetaptation? I can't get mine to work. Is there anything I have to do besides what's required to add the taptation?

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