tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post8065946218033170311..comments2024-03-29T01:36:12.851+00:00Comments on Guitar FX Layouts: Way Huge Angry TrollIvIarkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08416945174853142251noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-70223367305377309102021-05-22T20:15:42.102+01:002021-05-22T20:15:42.102+01:00I tried the potentiometer version. I doublechecked...I tried the potentiometer version. I doublechecked everything and the issue is that get very loud noise and beep only at full gain and volume. The guitarsignal shines slightly through heavily distorted. I took 47u instead of 100u and put a 100r instead of 10r. thanks for the Layouts here and keep up the good work!<br />naokohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861722391241950939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-23744414826139332672019-08-13T15:43:57.622+01:002019-08-13T15:43:57.622+01:00Just use 47u caps, it will work fineJust use 47u caps, it will work finenocentellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02331780998493316680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-46355606182841748882019-08-13T02:58:35.003+01:002019-08-13T02:58:35.003+01:00Ugh, I only have two 100uf caps left... Can any of...Ugh, I only have two 100uf caps left... Can any of them be swapped for a lower value? Have a bunch of 33's and 47's, but nothing higher at the moment.Fredrik Fenckehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14795658205902585587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-33644208924831790372017-09-19T16:16:27.029+01:002017-09-19T16:16:27.029+01:00I want the Ring worm :P someone needs to hook th...I want the Ring worm :P someone needs to hook that up.. I heard it has carrier frequency oscillation real bad even when not playing though. I guess for some things you just have to make due ;)BetterOffShredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14915216721556964789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-64789606593666207212017-04-23T03:23:20.567+01:002017-04-23T03:23:20.567+01:00Thanks Miro. I put a 100nf and 330nf caps on the o...Thanks Miro. I put a 100nf and 330nf caps on the outside lugs of a three position DPDT switch with a 100nf in the center and it worked great. I'm using it to push an Orange OR15 and it became very trebly with more anger. It was very harsh with my Vox AC10 too. I haven't tried it through the Vox yet but I built it more with the OR15 in mind. Squirrelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01544144281667424943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-29922536094343519372017-04-22T21:56:46.695+01:002017-04-22T21:56:46.695+01:00Nope. The 1u is not cutting your lows. Up the 100n...Nope. The 1u is not cutting your lows. Up the 100n for 220n. That'll take the high pass filter rolloff frequency created by gain amp way lower.<br />+mmirosolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02400327798106357876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-82284077529887031092017-04-22T16:08:03.324+01:002017-04-22T16:08:03.324+01:00Also would increasing the input cap add in a littl...Also would increasing the input cap add in a little more low end? I find it a little too trebly with more anger dialed in Sorry, deleted my previous comment to subscribe. Squirrelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01544144281667424943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-23907311326371140182017-04-22T16:06:44.507+01:002017-04-22T16:06:44.507+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Squirrelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01544144281667424943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-28716492524448727142017-04-22T15:42:36.953+01:002017-04-22T15:42:36.953+01:00Version with the anger pot works great. Thanks Zac...Version with the anger pot works great. Thanks Zach. Squirrelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01544144281667424943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-80932364429950351442017-04-15T19:47:22.868+01:002017-04-15T19:47:22.868+01:00Can we have the Way Huge Ring Worm PLEASE!Can we have the Way Huge Ring Worm PLEASE!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08134005362547365736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-59812078469988538062017-04-14T19:56:59.650+01:002017-04-14T19:56:59.650+01:00don't worry. i've got a few waiting in the...don't worry. i've got a few waiting in the wings.Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00044917566185720896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-83405525292012682712017-04-14T17:03:27.190+01:002017-04-14T17:03:27.190+01:00Can't wait to try this one out! More Way Huge ...Can't wait to try this one out! More Way Huge layouts please!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15419503268302683939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-61587370127546973552017-04-13T15:44:10.848+01:002017-04-13T15:44:10.848+01:00Ah. Did not even think that oscilatoin could be an...Ah. Did not even think that oscilatoin could be an issue. Simple change and I'll fix it when I get back from class. Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00044917566185720896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-75927329212494196302017-04-13T15:07:26.018+01:002017-04-13T15:07:26.018+01:00As Csaba said, without the 1K5, we'll run into...As Csaba said, without the 1K5, we'll run into oscillation issues unless the feedback loops small cap is upped considerably - this'll result in unwanted loss of high frequencies. The C100K will only add more of the lower gain settings and due to C taper, the sweep would still work very well, without notable unusable area. Dist+/OD250 has a C500K pot in similar setup and that works quite well for the whole turn. A trimmer of 5K value to set the maximum gain (in place of 1K5) would also be a quite nice thing to try.<br /><br />The C50K will work just as well. With only minor loss in lower settings.<br /><br />Nice circuit anyway. Basically a buffered Dist+/OD250 gain stage without clipping diodes. Lots to tweak in there.<br /><br />This, also means that there is a reason for 833. Those'll clip more gracefully than some others. Any dual should be tried to see which performs the best..<br />+mirosolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02400327798106357876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-38318409737063881732017-04-13T13:31:56.701+01:002017-04-13T13:31:56.701+01:00Miro is right, you would need a 1k5 resistor betwe...Miro is right, you would need a 1k5 resistor between the 100nF cap and the Gain1&2 connection to work as the original. That sets the minimum gain to about 310. As per the current layout there is no minimum resistance, so I think the maximum gain would be theoretically infinite causing oscillation at the maximum setting of the gain pot.<br /><br />Putting a 160k resistor across the lugs would not only change the value of the pot but also would alter the taper, making it behave more like a linear pot. In this case that wouldn't be good as the big changes in the gain would shift towards the end of the turn of the pot. I'd rather suggest either a C100k or a C50k. With the former one would get less gain at the minimum setting and to have the whole range shifted a bit to the clockwise direction of the turn of the pot, and with the latter the distribution of the gain settings would be more even across the whole turn, but the minimum gain would be more than in the one with the gain switch. I personally would probably go with the C50k pot.drdFXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05100895565160403133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-83515714321334649122017-04-13T12:33:50.350+01:002017-04-13T12:33:50.350+01:00I was thinking antilog would be best too, but wasn...I was thinking antilog would be best too, but wasn't sure. With changing the switch to a pot I think with it as is you'll get more distortion with the pot due to being able to get lower resistance then 1.5k. Really to make the pot have similar range to the switch, not only would there need to be the 1.5k resistor, but a 160k resistor across the pot lugs to bring it down to 61.5k. I could be wrong though. Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00044917566185720896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-22369912744142643832017-04-13T09:56:55.596+01:002017-04-13T09:56:55.596+01:00Yeah - thanks! Another one on the build list ;-)Yeah - thanks! Another one on the build list ;-)mughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02985576075217334220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-72408044922602642682017-04-13T08:22:12.843+01:002017-04-13T08:22:12.843+01:00Looks better. However, there should be 1K5 resisto...Looks better. However, there should be 1K5 resistor between gain pot and 100n cap to get the pot settings per original. Also, the C-taper is a must with this gain control method.<br /><br />I might build one myself soon...<br />+mmirosolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02400327798106357876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-76799012876480405402017-04-12T22:30:34.446+01:002017-04-12T22:30:34.446+01:00I wait the verify the second version with pot, Im ...I wait the verify the second version with pot, Im going to buld that with a 4558, think it could work, also, I have 20 4558 an non 833, do that in a Crunch Box and work very well.Juan Manuel Vidalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00859201742649074822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-37242817821020123492017-04-12T22:16:55.941+01:002017-04-12T22:16:55.941+01:00crap, when you're right you're right. i wa...crap, when you're right you're right. i wasn't thinking and was on autopilot when i was switching the switch to a pot. i fixed the layout, and tied lugs 2&1 together similar to the MXR Dist+Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00044917566185720896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-89330490415704151222017-04-12T21:53:53.537+01:002017-04-12T21:53:53.537+01:00The pot version is in error. The 100n cap connects...The pot version is in error. The 100n cap connects to ground, but the other lead is floating. Plus the gain pot's lug 1 cannot be connected to ground. Refer to OD250/Dist+ to see hot to wire the gain pot. Only two terminals are used.<br />+mmirosolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02400327798106357876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-53052572835399293552017-04-12T17:37:57.940+01:002017-04-12T17:37:57.940+01:00awesome. can't wait to hear the sound comparis...awesome. can't wait to hear the sound comparison when the caps are switched. always had a soft spot for this one when it came out.Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00044917566185720896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-45990994030526512017-04-12T17:21:50.537+01:002017-04-12T17:21:50.537+01:00Call this verified! I used a 47p instead of the 33...Call this verified! I used a 47p instead of the 330p as i have only just noticed the change as i was building. Still sounds pretty awesome with a 47p. Will remove and socket to see what it changes. Thanks for the layout Zach!Hozy31https://www.blogger.com/profile/16714771534041521767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-1634961218434336072017-04-12T16:48:15.159+01:002017-04-12T16:48:15.159+01:00took care of it for you.took care of it for you.Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00044917566185720896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847048658257278783.post-17210396300755945342017-04-12T15:25:41.021+01:002017-04-12T15:25:41.021+01:00Awesome thanks man. I'll make the change to th...Awesome thanks man. I'll make the change to the board. Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00044917566185720896noreply@blogger.com