Tuesday 17 May 2011

Sustain Punch Creamy Dreamer

Another sought after Muff variant for the aficionados.  Verified




There were apparently lots of revisions of this pedal, this one based on Kit Rae's schematic



25 comments:

  1. nice layout ! Would the tone switch off the Skreddy variant work well in this you reckon? I just made a Creamy Dreamer (few subs, read here about it http://hownotomakeapedal.blogspot.com/2011/05/another-big-update-4-new-pedals.html) using sabros vero, works great. Its 2k2 off the C of Q4 you are correct.

    Cheers!

    Ian

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  2. Hi Ian, yes the switch would be fine with this. To be honest I'd always include one with any muff build because the usual scooped tone isn't for me, and I didn't include it in this layout only because it wasn't in the original. Again the switch connection will go between Tone 3 and the collector or Q3. And thanks for confirming the Q4 resistor value, I assumed it was just a mistake on the schematic, but any standard Muff Q4 resistor values would be ok for the final recovery stage.

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  3. Incidentally, very nice builds on there mate, the Meathead's an awesome fuzz as well isn't it.

    I only ever really do these layouts because I don't like standing resistors and so all the ones I've done have essentially been done to get everything laying flat the way I like it. And all but a few bigger circuits will fit easily in a 1590B (and maybe lose a few columns at the expense of a few rows to accomodate). I've got through a couple of hundred now and will post most of them steadily over time.

    Sometimes I wish I didn't have this obsessive compulsive thing! :o)

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  5. TBH the meathead didnt blow me away, hence messing with transistors. Maybe I was expecting more, maybe I just am not buying the DAM hype...or maybe I need to tune down a few more half steps...

    I appreciate the laying down resistors mantra, also, properly spaced caps to fit the standard sizes. I only really buy the caps that fit over 3 vero holes, so when they are on adjacent tracks or even further its harder. Maybe im lazy but I cba buying different style caps to fit builds, so Ill sometimes have to tack solder resistor legs on to box caps for example.

    anyway, keep up the good work, dude.

    if you ever fancy doing some modulation or delay then I would be happy to verify..

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  6. I've made Meatheads that I've been less impressed with, but I've made some belters too. The best ones I've made so far used ME4003 transistors and it ended up quite compressed and even slightly muff-like.

    Remember it's just a modded Fuzz Face so if you like them you should be able to get on with the Meathead. Sometimes I think you just seem to get the perfect combination of transistor gain and component values, and it ends up sounding great.

    I've got lots of different types of caps, I'd lose interest unless I had a few things to vary every now and again! :o) Plus it's definitely useful when doing layouts knowing that I will have options for virtually any pitch so I'm not limited when positioning the caps. I do need some sort of leeway like that to avoid the standy up resistors.

    I haven't bothered much with modulation, basically because I use a rack which I'm very unlikely to ever replace with pedals, and so a lot of modulation, pitch, delay or reverb effects are pretty much moot for me. I have done a few tremolo layouts though that you may be interested in. I'll email you.

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  7. Thats a ME4003 that I have in the meathead along with a 2N2222A incidentally. Gave the best sound.

    you can hit me up at lacesensor1983 at gmail dotcom with the trems thatd be cool

    thanks

    also did some more decals today. Pretty happy with these

    http://hownotomakeapedal.blogspot.com/2011/05/creamy-dreamer-and-micro-fuzz-complete.html

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  8. MArk any chance of you doing a Lovetone big Cheese schematic, or converting the OLC chunky cheese layout to vero?

    The perfboard one ive made seems to have some bugs. It passes sound, but lots of hum as well, and the volume control doesnt work as ive got it laid out. Ive added a comment on my blog with more info. Stumped if I know what to do now :S

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  9. Yes I'll have a look at it mate. I'll get the schematic off your blog but it may take a few days, bloody customers expecting me to work! :o)

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  10. Sorry mate, been mad busy. I'll do my best to get it done over the weekend! :o)

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  11. Hey Mark, speak of the devil Ive managed to get mine working. So dont worry. But the community would dig it im sure, and I would still offer to build it on Vero too.

    Missed out a +9v connection to my second IC on the pad per hole layout. Sigh! Stupid mistake.

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  12. Hey IvIark, been working up a vero based on the big cheese. I was pestering you ages ago for it. Feel free to cast your expert gaze over it.
    http://hownotomakeapedal.blogspot.com/2011/07/my-first-vero-layout.html

    Johnno at FSB has already said it looks good but worth asking you. If you fancy collaborating to make it smaller and featuring the layout on here, then go right ahead.

    Best wishes

    IAn

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  13. Hey IvIark. What software do you use for the Veros. I wanna try it. The one I used looks a bit goofy. Thanks. Ian.

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  14. I use DIY Layout Creator V2 beta.

    http://diy-fever.com/software/

    I know there's a newer version out but I don't like it as much, and V2 is second nature to me now.

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  15. Cheers, v2 looks nicer than v3 but seems quirkier to use. My Big Cheese vero is verified and fired up first time.

    Cheers for the inspiration :)

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  16. Hey IvIark! Thanks for the great layouts!
    I'm having problems with the wiring of the Creamy Dreamer. I'm new to the DiY so any help would be appreciated.
    The whole wiring for IN/OUT, power and FS would be very helpful! :)

    Thanks!

    Vedran

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  17. http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=707.0;attach=226;image hope that helps

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  18. Thank you very much! I will try that method ASAP!

    Vedran

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  19. I just love your layouts, especially the big muffs. with the flat lying resistors, and evenly spaced transistors, they just look so handsome when built up. unlike many other typical vero builds. anything new to post for the end of 2011?

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  20. Hi and thanks for your comments. I've been very busy with work all year which is why I haven't added too much (or built anything) recently, but if there is something you'd particularly like to see, then let me know and when I get a bit more time to devote to it again, I'll add it to the list. Cheers.

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  21. This is one that I've wanted to own for years. One question though (and forgive my ignorance) but what do the red lines represent? Cheers

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    1. Those are for easlily percieving where the +9v rail should have that voltage. Nothing to worry about :)
      +m

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    2. I use it as a guide when I'm putting the layouts together so I can quickly see where the 9V and ground rails are so I can speed up component placing. I usually delete them all.

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  22. I just completed this build. It is the best pedal I have built so far. It sustains forever! I am so happy.

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